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My Logic Battery is reading Non-Logic!  What is going on and how do I fix it?

  1. For very different reasons this can happen to a Logic, Digital Logic, or Hytron battery that has never been recelled as well as a battery that has been recelled.  No matter if this battery is an OEM battery, or a recell with a new insert having  battery cells exceeding, exactly the same, or less quality, than OEM, the battery cell is not the cause of this reading. 

     

    If your Anton Bauer Interactive chargers no longer recognize particular Anton Bauer Logic or Hytron series batteries the battery inserts may still be good and there is a cost saving resolution.  Call for details.

    Cadex and PAG analyzers use very sophisticated algorithms to maintain your batteries and use a pulse charge to keep your batteries at maximum capacity while on the analyzer.  Because these analyzers are high end analyzers and not sophisticated smart chargers they can charge rechargeable batteries with temperature sensors, BUT do NOT require your battery to have temperature sensors for proper charging, and they achieve excellent battery performance.

    Unlike smart chargers, Cadex and PAG analyzers do NOT require any digital circuitry to analyze and properly charger your batteries.

    At Rathbone Energy we verify every Digital Logic / Hytron type battery is reading properly on Anton Bauer 2702 InterActive chargers with the DDM before sealing the case and shipping your products back to you.

    1. First trouble shoot your battery.

      1. Check the contacts on your battery for corrosion that may or may not be visible.  If possible take a small delicate tool and scrape the mushroom or button type contacts.

        1. Follow up with an eraser head if possible and then blow out any debris.

        2. Be careful with electronic contact cleaners.  We recently had a new client simply spray an electronic contact cleaner, under pressure and very cold, on a warm battery.  He broke the back plate.  Not an easy thing to do.

    2. If this does not resolve your problem then it is a very high probability that your defect is one of the following.

      1. Internally in an Anton Bauer Digital Propac, a particular wire is broken.  The defective wire could have been pinched or a solder connection broken. 

        1. The simple solution is to replace the wire.

        2. We have seen both instances in never recelled and in previously recelled batteries. 

      2. Internally in an Anton Bauer Digital or Hytron a sensor or board component has simply gone bad.  You insert needs to be transferred into another shell or you may purchase a PAG analyzer.

        1. We have seen both instances in never recelled and in previously recelled batteries. 

      3. Many times we receive batteries that have been previously recelled by other vendors, some open this week and some not.

        1. Frequently we find wires in the harness that have been damaged while improperly opening the case.

        2. Sometimes they have even twisted the wires together and wrapped them with tape.

        3. Other times they have attempted to re-wire the harness using improper color coding such as blue on the ground and black on the temperature sensor connection.

      1. When opening a pack that has never been opened we occasionally find a pinched wire or a loose circuit board screw.  Nothing nor anyone is perfect.  We replace the wire to keep the battery from showing up again before it should.

      2. If the wiring harness is not secured properly before closing the case a solder joint can be stressed.  At Rathbone Energy we secure the insert beyond industry standards.  This helps prevent pinched wires and stops the breaking of a solder joint on a thin 24-26 gauge wire.

      3. A temperature sensor in the battery wiring harness is slightly out of calibration with your "Intelli" type charger sensing technology.  This does not happen very often but can happen at any time.  Sometimes they re-calibrate and sometimes this requires a temperature harness / sensor replacement.  If you own PAG analyzers this is never an issue.

      4. That is why the final test of our rebuilds, before sealing and after sealing your case, are completed on Anton Bauer 2702 InterActive Chargers with the DDM for approval,  Then we ship your fine product back to you.

      5. If your charger insist on reading: CCO, HOLD, or NON-LOGIC, these batteries will operate fine on a PAG or Cadex analyzer.

    Before installation we charge and test the charge of our new battery inserts. We use Only CADEX, CHRISTIE, and PAG Battery Management Analyzers. (After a battery is fully charged there is No continuous trickle charge on these analyzers.  They monitor the charge and supply a pulse charge when necessary) 

  2. After installation into your case the complete battery is tested.  Then we seal the case and test each packs voltage again through the pin connectors and finally on Anton Bauer Quad 2702 InterActive chargers  with the DDM module before shipping back to you.
  3. Anton Bauer InterActive 2702 charger with DDM used here to test your Standard, Logic, and Digital Propac and Hytron recells before sealing the case, after sealing the case, and return to clients. We also make sure no battery reads "Non-Logic" before sealing the case.  This seldom happens and there are only a few reasons a battery would read non-logic anyway. 

    Non-Logic Reading

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    Anton Bauer Thermal Issue

Notes:

Many times clients have battery packs that go dead or stop functioning with their manufacturers brand smart charger.  Thinking the batteries are dead they place them on a shelf until they are ready to recell the units.  

The batteries actually go dead sitting on a shelf.  The original issue was actually communications between that battery and the OEM smart charger.  The batteries were actually fine and would have continued to perform fine if charged on a Cadex or PAG analyzers.

  • IMPORTANT:  It has been our experience with these particular batteries that after all the above checks are carefully finished, still, a large percentage of these batteries, estimated at >60% with Hytron 50 and Dionic 90, do NOT pass the AB2707 with DDM Test's because they came in with internal circuit board damage that can only be discovered after a new insert is installed and we loose all the time consuming labor.

  • Our Rathbone Energy Lithium Ion batteries are built differently:

    1. We have streamlined the internal circuitry of our batteries and they to have built in protection circuitry to ensure the highest degree of safety operation.  They are STILL Lithium Ion.   
    2. By streamlining our batteries circuits we remove unnecessary components that might be used to force someone's battery to only work with one brand charger.
    3. Unnecessary components that have nothing to do with the safety of the battery only increase the chance that the battery will fail prematurely because of unnecessary components being damaged when a battery is jolted or dropped.
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    1. To better understand how your batteries learn see:

      1. Anton Bauer's Manual on Propac 14 and Trimpac 14 digital batteries:

      2. Liquid Crystal Display (LCD);

      3. Read Manual Page numbers (9, 10 & 11), Adobe pdf page number (13, 14 & 15)

      4. Link to Anton Bauer Digital Propac / Trimpac Manual : http://www.antonbauer.com/downloads/dig_propac_14-dig_tripac_14.pdf
      5. Note: With their web site upgrades the above link sometimes moves and we end up with a dead link.  If it is a dead link Search for the active link on their site.

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